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SPACE Digest                                     Volume 11 : Issue 397

Today's Topics:
              Re:  SPACE Digest V11 #391
              Re: The Vatican Connection
           Payload Status for 05/09/90 (Forwarded)
         NASA Headline News for 05/09/90 (Forwarded)
           Payload Status for 05/14/90 (Forwarded)
               Re: why there are no ETs
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Date:     Mon, 14 May 90  10:07:10 EDT
Subject:  Re:  SPACE Digest V11 #391

> Date: 12 May 90 00:45:32 GMT
> From: hao.hao.ucar.edu![e-mail]  (Derek Buzasi)
> Subject: Re: The Vatican Connection
>
>
> In article <[e-mail]>
> [e-mail] writes:
>
>
> #     Last night (5-10-90) on _Prime Time Live_ there was a story on the
> #observatory complex that the University of Arizona is planning to build.
> #Some biologists have said that the project would harm the rare red squirrel
> #that live there.  The project was temporarily delayed when the Fish and
> #Wildlife Service placed the squirrel on the endangered species list.  The
> #university pressured the Arizona delegation to Congress and a variance was
> #granted.  As soon as the university began building an environmental group
> #(I believe it was the Audubon Society) successfully filed suit and halted
> #the project, at least for now.  The suit revealed that some biologists were
> #pressured into telling Congress that the squirrels would not be in danger.
> #
> #      The university was able to pressure Congress because of the backers of
> #the project were quite powerful: the Max Planck Institute, the Smithsonian,
> #and even the Vatican!  Pope John Paul II even met with university officials
> #in 1987 to discuss the project.  (And by backing I mean funding.)
> #
> #     This seems to show a marked change in the Church's attitude toward as
> #astronomy.  Centuries ago it persecuted Galileo and only made its formal
> #apology for doing so just a few years ago.  Know the Church is funding
> #telescopes!  In my opinion, it would suggest that the Church feels that
> #astronomy is a way towards understanding God better.  Any comments?
>
> The Vatican has a vested interest in the Mt. Graham site since, I believe,
> that is where they are going to place the VATT (Vatican Advanced Technology
> Telescope), a 1.8 meter instrument.
>
As for the animal rights activists seeking to protect the rare red
squirrel, let those people offer up there homes as breeding areas
for the rodents, and let's get on with science.

The Roman Catholic Church, headed up by Pope John Paul II, is the
largest money-making, profit-making BUSINESS ORGANIZATION on Earth,
and acts only, repeat ONLY, out of vested self-interest.

Any thought that they might be seeking to expand the world's know-
ledge about anything is tantamount to insanity. With the current
expansion of humanity's abilities in the area of astronomy, and the
truths that MAY be revealed regarding the universe, and possible
life in it, the Vatican MUST acquire that knowledge firsthand, in
order to combat it with erudite-sounding church dogma, and thus
perpetuate the mass ignorance of the world's masses, the church's
mission since its inception.

To my mind, there is nothing more terrifying than that the Roman
Catholic Church will, through the power of its incalculable wealth,
control even the smallest part of what an instrument of scientific
research will be used for. I will join any organization, and con-
tribute time, money, and talent to it, that seeks to prevent the
intrusion of the Roman Catholic Church into any scientific project.

                                         Derd Valpar
                                  aka    Marlen
                                         AZM@NIHCU

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Date: 14 May 90 05:58:32 GMT
From: bfmny0![e-mail]  (Tom Neff)
Subject: Re: The Vatican Connection

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Derek Buzasi) writes:
>The Vatican has a vested interest in the Mt. Graham site since, I believe,
>that is where they are going to place the VATT (Vatican Advanced Technology
>Telescope), a 1.8 meter instrument.

What are they planning to do -- identify star formation regions and
preach to them about the evils of stellar birth control?  Compile the
Baltimore Cosmology?  ("78.  How do we obtain galactic equilibrium?  --
Through penance and the intercession of the Virgin."  "132.  From whence
comes the invisible dark matter in the universe? -- From the souls of
Communist astronomers.")  Will all scientific results obtained by the
VATT fall under the rubric of papal infallibility?

Just asking.  (ecumenical apologies and a tip o' the mitre to our
Roman brethren) :-) :-) :-)

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Date: 14 May 90 17:30:55 GMT
From: trident.arc.nasa.gov![e-mail]  (Peter E. Yee)
Subject: Payload Status for 05/09/90 (Forwarded)


    Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 05-09-90.

    - STS-31R HST (at VPF) -

    Post launch GSE removal continues.


    - STS-35 ASTRO-1/BBXRT (at Pad-A) -

    HUT batery pack charging and BBXRT battery removal/pump
    power connections were performed Tuesday.  No payload
    activities are scheduled for today.


    - STS-40 SLS-1 (at 0&C) -

    Experiment train interface testing and ECS systems checks
    are continuing along with MVAK training.


    - STS-41 Ulysses (at ESA 60) -

    PAM-S spin balance operations will continue today at ESA 60.
    VPHD preps will also continue today at the VPF.


    - STS-42 IML-1 (at O&C) -

    Module pyrell foam replacement, floor staging, and rack
    staging continue today.


    - STS-45 Atlas-1 (at O&C) -

    Cable panel installations will be performed today.


    - STS-46 TSS-1 (at O&C) -

    No work is scheduled for today.


    - STS-47 Spacelab-J (at O&C) -

    No work is scheduled for today.

    - STS-55 SL-D2 (at O&C) -

    No work is scheduled for today.


    - HST M&R (at O&C) -

    ORUC interface testing continues today.

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Date: 14 May 90 17:22:47 GMT
From: trident.arc.nasa.gov![e-mail]  (Peter E. Yee)
Subject: NASA Headline News for 05/09/90 (Forwarded)

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Wednesday, May 9, 1990               Audio Service: 202/755-1788
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This is NASA Headline News for Wednesday, May 9...


A valve change in a Freon cooling loop located beneath the
forward portion of orbiter Columbia payload bay may be required
prior to launch.  STS-35 mission managers will discuss a possible
launch date change now scheduled for May 17 at the Flight
Readiness Review scheduled today.
                            ********
The German ROSAT Satellite is on schedule for launch atop a U.S.
Delta 2 rocket at Kennedy Space Center on May 31. It kicks off a
1 and 1/2-year program conducting the first survey of deep space
X-Ray sources.  One thousand times more sensitive than any
similar space-launched instrument, scientists expect examining
the wavelengths created from the birth and death of stars will
provide a new study of X-ray astronomy.
                            ********
To express his continued support of NASA's space program,
President Bush will meet with the space shuttle Atlantis crew at
the White House today.
                            ********
Space Fax Daily says a press conference involving Glavkosmos and
NASA which concerns "a major international, record-breaking
adventure of scientific and environmental interest" is scheduled
this morning at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.  It
is reported official statements are expected.
                            ********
Tomorrow, a Senate panel will review the NASA FY91 budget for
space science and applications programs.  The agenda will cover
Mars Observer, the Earth Observing System, Spacelab and the
Advanced Communications Technology Satellite Program.
                            ********
The mock emergency space shuttle launch, engine failure and crash
landing to test communications and disaster planning yesterday at
Kennedy Space Center went well.  It was the first of three
simulations planned before the end of the summer.
                            ********
Administrator Richard H. Truly will address agency employees on
NASA Select TV tomorrow, May 10 at 12:30 P.M.  His remarks will
come from Kennedy Space Center.  Many NASA centers will tape
record Truly's remarks for replay at selected times.
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Here's the broadcast schedule for Public Affairs events on NASA
Select TV.  All times are Eastern.


Thursday, May 10....

                   11:30 A.M.     NASA Update will be
                                  transmitted.

Friday, May 11......

                   11:00 A.M.     Dr. Clifford Stoll, author of
                                  "The Cuckoo's Egg" will lecture
                                  on computer security.

Monday-Wednesday, May 14-16...

                   9-11:00 A.M.   STS-35 Pre-Launch Briefing.


All events and times are subject to change without notice.
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NASA Select TV: Satcom F2R, Transponder 13, 72 Degrees West
Longitude, Audio 6.8, Frequency 3960 MHz.
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These reports are filed daily, Monday through Friday, at 12:00
Noon, EDT.  This is a service of the Internal Communications
Branch, NASA Headquarters.

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Date: 14 May 90 17:34:39 GMT
From: trident.arc.nasa.gov![e-mail]  (Peter E. Yee)
Subject: Payload Status for 05/14/90 (Forwarded)


    Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 05-14-90.

    - STS-31R HST (at VPF) -

    Post launch GSE removal continues.


    - STS-35 ASTRO-1/BBXRT (at Pad-A) -

    No payload activities are scheduled for today.


    - STS-40 SLS-1 (at 0&C) -

    The mission sequence test will start today and MVAK training
    will continue.


    - STS-41 Ulysses (at ESA 60) -

    PAM-S spin balance operations will continue today at ESA 60.
    VPHD preps will continue today at the VPF.


    - STS-42 IML-1 (at O&C) -

    Module pyrell foam replacement, floor staging, and rack
    staging continue today.


    - STS-45 Atlas-1 (at O&C) -

    Cable and cable panel installations will continue today.


    - STS-46 TSS-1 (at O&C) -

    HDRR cables will be removed third shift Tuesday.


    - STS-47 Spacelab-J (at O&C) -

    No work is scheduled for today.


    - STS-55 SL-D2 (at O&C) -

    No work is scheduled for today.


    - HST M&R (at O&C) -

    Paper closure will be performed today.

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Date: 13 May 90 01:58:17 GMT
From: clyde.concordia.ca!mcgill-vision!quiche!calvin![e-mail]  (Mark SOKOLOWSKI)
Subject: Re: why there are no ETs

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Fraering Philip) writes:
>This posting will, like the previous one, cover several topics:
>
>Mark S. was talking about the space shuttle system, and why the liquid
>hydrogen motors were both extremely complex and unsafe. I would like to
>state that although the turbines on the SSME are very complex, they are not
>much more complex than the most advanced jet engines in use today. The
>
False, the turbines are subjected to far greater constraints and pressure
(200 athmospheres) than in any rocket engine ever! Just look at a photo,
and try to figure out were the input/output of hydrogen are!!! (Beside,
there are 2 stages of turbopumps, and all has to weight no more than
100 kg!!!).
>
>2. About a Venus Base being a pleasant place to live:
>
I'm convinced that batyscaphs are not needed, since the right athmosphere
of hydrox can nullify the risks of pressurization. And look at any
kitchen oven: There is a (big big big) window, since glass blocks infrared,
and the insulation is of not more than 1 or 2 cm wide, and you can touch the
oudside with your finger. And for those guys that tell me that a high-tech
sophisticated fancy window structure is needed, I'll simply point out
that the so-called diamond mirrors in the pionneer probes were only made of
diamond because this later cristal doesn't block infrared, which was an
obvious property needed for a pyrometer and a spectrograph stuck to it.
>
>3. About space colonies and industrialization:
>
Venus has more surface area than all the solid bodies of the solar system
combined! (And I'm correcting a statement I made in a previous posting
in which I said Venus had more solid surface area than all the INNER
solar system bodies... This time I can confidently include all the moons
of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, Charon, the ateroids).
>
>provide us with metals without destroying biosphere. It would be exporting
>our problems, but wouldn't it be prudent to export them to somewhere where
>there is _no_ life whatsoever?
>
That's pure imperialism. The same argument was used by conquistadors when
they were exterminating the aztecs. Look at what is happening with
Antarctica!!! Messing up the Earth, and then going out to mess up the rest
of the universe is not precisely my idea of space exploration...

Mark S.
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